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Like many others, I’ve spent ages trying to get Microsoft to show websites correctly and actually be able to read and write Chinese characters on a non-Chinese version of XP.

There’s bits and pieces on the web on how to overcome this but I found them not so useful (especially as I don’t have the installation discs to hand for Chinese character support or ahem.. am running a pirate installation…)

Unfortunately you have to have admin rights to be able to set up Microsoft IME via the control panel and be able to write characters using the MS pinyin imput method. You also need admin access to be able to change windows so it defaults non-Unicode programs to use simplified Chinese – if you don’t do this when you load QQ all you see is squares…

There is a way around this if you don’t happen to have admin access to your machine i.e You’re at work . You can install NJStar CJK Viewer .

This will allow you to see characters in programs like QQ which are non Unicode even without the windows settings being changed in the control panel. It’s very useful for viewing but does have the habit of crashing things every so often so be aware…

I also use a great plugin for firefox that lets you type hanzi within Firefox without having to mess around with any of the settings in the control panel. It’s quick and can be disabled/re-enabled by hitting ctrl+f12. The only downside is that it only works within the Firefox window, and so cutting pasting out into external programs wont work unless you have chinese character support installed ..

You can even get into QQ and type hanzi this way by using a web based IM like imhaha.com, I have found this so timesaving.

Of course Vista can read hanzi built in but there are so many other compatibility issues I had with Vista I went back to trusted XP!

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On my laptop I always use a Chinese language installation of windows (so the menus/error messages etc are all in hanzi)

It’s a market-stall versions bought from the vendors in one of the underground markets in Changchun. Strangely it’s called ‘Tomato XP’ and the Microsoft splash screen has been replaced by cartoon pictures of the red vegetable superimposed onto the windows hill!

Apparently the chap behind this is now in Jail …must have been very unluncky to get caught in one of the crack-downs… almost certainly has been made an example of by the Chinese authorities

I find this the best way to overcome compatibility issues. Of course you’ve got to have some understanding of chinese to be able to do this, so it is not useful if people who have acces to your computer cant read chinese characters.

For the uniniated to type Chinese characters (hanzi) on a computer they need an input system that allows the phonetic pinyin system to let people choose which characters to use. Unlike what Hollywood portrays Chinese keyboards are the same as western keyboards, they are not the size of a room with a different character showing on every key!

Microsoft provide Pinyin IME, which is a standard input program for typing 汉字 within Windows. It’s ok but not brilliant as its not intelligent as it could be. It is simpler and slower to use than other systems.

There is another IME from sogou the search engine people (搜狗拼音输入法) that I find much more intuitive and faster as it learns and remembers what you have typed previously. It also allows the use of spaces so you can easily switch between English letters and Chinese characters without having to fiddle around with clicking on the menu bar or hitting shift.

Also there are some really cool skins for the Sogou IME and you can add your own designs here

sogou skin example

Google (谷歌拼音输入法) have their own version which looks suspiciously like Sogou’s version…Infact it is a blatant rip from Sogou’s code simply re-branded in the Google way! It’s quite amusing that Google have decided to use such typically Chinese cloning tactics – perhaps they too have finally realised that copyright law in China isn’t worth the paper its written on. I wonder how it is before we see other western firms copying Chinese technology…

Been lazy/too busy to update things here… Have lots of things to write about, will put them here once I have time.

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The other day had the opportunity to check out London’s China Town, I’ve only been once before, many many years ago.

It’s situated very close to Leicester Square and makes up a much smaller area than I expected. I really was expecting a little more than just a few streets…

As expected, Chinatown is not really reminicant of any place I’ve seen In China, for me the only striking simularities being the obvious characters on signs (almost all traditional characters) and the Chinese looking people walking around the area.

Cantonese 粤语 is the main language spoken here, most Chinese here I would guess have links with Hong Kong / Taiwan or southern China. I haven’t heard much Cantonese before and I have to say it’s a very ugly language to listen to and sounds really aggressive to the untuned ear.

I was sitting in a cheap buffet restaurant (£5/75元 all you can eat – Incidently – you wouldn’t want to eat too much food here!, but for London prices it’s very cheap) and the manager was telling the fuyuan (waitresses) in really stongly accented Mandarin where he wanted the customers to sit, whilst chatting with some customers in Cantonese. The fuyuans were clearly mainlanders.

I wondered how/why they got/came to the UK, they clearly were not students/skilled migrants, but I didn’t ask them for obvious reasons. From what I heard they spoke very little english beyond restaurant vocab.

I couldn’t help thinking that their quality of life here couldn’t be much better than what they had in China？ Perhaps I’m wrong and they are here legally, but knowing how very difficult it is for Mainland Chinese to get work outside ancestry, I highly doubt this. – My guess is that they paid a gang in China and came here illegally…- working in Chinatown for less than minimum wage…- posting cash home or paying off the debts to the gangmasters… Who knows?

I think there are two sides to Chinatown; the obvious side you’ll see walking down one of the pedestrianised streets- tourists sightseeing, taking pictures and visiting restaurants. Locals and tourists alike wanting to try sample ‘real’ Chinese food and perhaps what they think It’s like in a Chinese restaurant in China.

The problem with this, I think, is that there are so many rules and health and safey regulations that to have a ‘real’ authentic copy of a Chinese restaurant in London would probably be illegal! And to be honest I dont think It would be popular with British people ‘laowai’ – so you end up with a compromise, not one or the other. Just as in Changchun the ‘western’ restaurants (i.e. 欧娄巴） are also compromises – it’s a question of supply and demand – you give the customer what he/she wants or expects, whether its ‘real’ or not is not the point!

And the other side, the darker side. Chinese people and immigrants from other asian countries working (many illegally, but they do jobs that many people here simply wont do.) for very little pay and poor working conditions.

Something else that I noticed or at very least percieved was the relative ‘poverty’ of the Chinese (excluding asian looking tourists/students – who stand out like saw thumbs) looking people – I’m sure most chinese speaking immigrants end up here,

I am also sure there are operations in people trafficking probably operated from within this area. -I’m not making a judgement I’m just saying, I think that’s how it is.

There was an interesting banner draped over a shop that looked as though it had recently been closed down, (see pic on left) stating that the British were not supporting migrant workers – I can only guess why this shop was boarded up, It would be interesting to find out why. I wouldn’t be surprised if it has something to do with hiring illegal workers.

What I found funny was the way in which the Chinese have exported their business models and how they are being used in London – here you can find small shops (just like those in Changchun) selling anything – fake DVDs, SIM cards, foreign foodstuffs, you can even change your renminbi

There are adverts places outside, posters, billboards – just like those in Changchun. I think the the Chinese here are incredibly entrepreneurial and profit conscious, they even use western selling ideas (never seen in China) – such as buy one get one free or two for the price of one. Also it’s the only place in the UK where I’ve seen there are too many staff!

It much harder to do this here as its not so easy to strar up a business, but i think there is greater potential to make more money long term.

I have spent some time in various Chinese restaurants and being the UK they wont let you take in your own drinks, afterall this is financially to their dis-advantage and how other restaurants operate in the UK. Yet they keep other Chinese practices – such as service being very direct to the point- which of course in the UK, can be misinterpreted as being rude and impolite.

But it’s accepted by the customers I think. Personally I would rather have one or the other – western service or chinese service and all that goes with it – but that’s not how things have developed.

I find it curious how the Chinese food here has been anglocized with things that people from the UK think is ‘Chinese’ just as western foods in China are ‘Chinacized’ to suit tastes, because that’s really what Chinese people expect of western food.

This runs through many areas and happens I think because of a combination of perhaps ignorance on the customers part, stereotypes things from films TV, and adaptation on the businesses part – that is changing a product to meet more local demand.

Anyway, The ‘Chinese’ food here I’ve tried thus far is pretty bad. Awful..

If I want Chinese food I like then the only way is took cook it myself but I knew this would probably happen before I left China…

Luckily I have a sweet toooth and so can get used to things here but I can imagine how difficult It must be for someone new to the UK. The food isn’t as bad as I remember, it just seriously lacks taste and flavour!

I’m not so sure now that If you look hard enough, you’ll be get lots of different types of Chinese food, as I only seemed to be able to find the Cantonese restaurants!　广东菜真难吃了！

I did find several Chinese supermarkets and was very happy to find they sell many of the same things I saw In Changchun. Those packets of instant noodles for 30p (5元), sunflower seeds for 2 pounds (30元) a packet and one of my favourite drinks – 水晶葡萄 grape juice for a very reasonable 60p (10元) a bottle!

Unfortunatly I was unable to find many of the sauces that I recognised in Changchun. Predictabally, almost all the ingrediants are imported from Hong Kong and so are quite different from the stuff in dongbei.

An interesting problem I encountered was working out what was what, as the characters used are traditional and so are difficult for me to read and a westernised English name or Cantonese name is used, rather than pinyin

For example: hoisin sauce is haixian jiang 海鮮酱. I dont know the English name or cantonese spelling/pronuncaiation so I am having to learn!

But I did find these sunflower seeds (xiang guazi) 香瓜子 for a very reasonable 2 pounds for a big bag!